E si che su PS un po' di testa dovrebbero averla

Marko8686 · 11-07-2008, 12:43 PM

PokerStars Game #18724688966: Tournament #95215693, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/07/10 - 17:21:11 (ET)
Table '95215693 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: boeki3 (1395 in chips)
Seat 2: BigChief108 (1300 in chips)
Seat 4: AJAX_QQ (3825 in chips)
Seat 5: landraas (1065 in chips)
Seat 6: stefge (1185 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: Troll2007 (2570 in chips)
Seat 8: GBNate04 (765 in chips)
Seat 9: Marko8686 (1395 in chips)
AJAX_QQ: posts small blind 15
landraas: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Marko8686 [Kd Kh]
stefge: folds
Troll2007: folds
GBNate04: calls 30
Marko8686: raises 90 to 120
boeki3: calls 120
BigChief108: folds
AJAX_QQ: folds
landraas: folds
GBNate04: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [3h Qs 4d]
GBNate04: checks
Marko8686: bets 300
stefge has returned
boeki3: raises 420 to 720
GBNate04: folds
Marko8686: raises 555 to 1275 and is all-in
boeki3: calls 555 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [3h Qs 4d] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [3h Qs 4d 5h] [Ac]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Marko8686: shows [Kd Kh] (a pair of Kings)
boeki3: shows [Ad Qd] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
AJAX_QQ said, "ouch"
boeki3 collected 2955 from pot

PokerStars Game #18736345873: Tournament #95277605, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/07/11 - 05:14:59 (ET)
Table '95277605 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: svana_dk (3280 in chips)
Seat 3: biglance007 (1505 in chips)
Seat 4: 123rataza (2550 in chips)
Seat 6: RiveredRat24 (2840 in chips)
Seat 7: CapaCiaan (1150 in chips)
Seat 8: Marko8686 (815 in chips)
Seat 9: mr vuitton (1360 in chips)
Marko8686: posts small blind 50
mr vuitton: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Marko8686 [Ad 9c]
svana_dk: folds
biglance007: folds
123rataza: folds
RiveredRat24: raises 150 to 250
CapaCiaan: folds
Marko8686: raises 565 to 815 and is all-in
mr vuitton: folds
RiveredRat24: calls 565
*** FLOP *** [7c 5s 4d]
*** TURN *** [7c 5s 4d] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [7c 5s 4d 3s] [Js]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Marko8686: shows [Ad 9c] (high card Ace)
RiveredRat24: shows [7d Ks] (a pair of Sevens)
RiveredRat24 collected 1730 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1730 | Rake 0
Board [7c 5s 4d 3s Js]
Seat 2: svana_dk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: biglance007 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: 123rataza folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: RiveredRat24 showed [7d Ks] and won (1730) with a pair of Sevens
Seat 7: CapaCiaan (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Marko8686 (small blind) showed [Ad 9c] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 9: mr vuitton (big blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #18736423782: Tournament #95277612, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/07/11 - 05:24:16 (ET)
Table '95277612 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: Marko8686 (790 in chips)
Seat 3: sneaky_rich (3825 in chips)
Seat 4: CapaCiaan (1760 in chips)
Seat 5: Horst007 (840 in chips)
Seat 6: their mine (2880 in chips)
Seat 8: mr vuitton (3405 in chips)
Marko8686: posts small blind 75
sneaky_rich: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Marko8686 [Kd As]
CapaCiaan: folds
Horst007: folds
their mine: raises 150 to 300
mr vuitton: calls 300
Marko8686: raises 490 to 790 and is all-in
sneaky_rich: folds
their mine: folds
mr vuitton: calls 490
*** FLOP *** [Ah 2h 8c]
*** TURN *** [Ah 2h 8c] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [Ah 2h 8c Td] [6d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Marko8686: shows [Kd As] (a pair of Aces)
mr vuitton: shows [Ts Tc] (three of a kind, Tens)
mr vuitton collected 2030 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2030 | Rake 0
Board [Ah 2h 8c Td 6d]
Seat 2: Marko8686 (small blind) showed [Kd As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: sneaky_rich (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: CapaCiaan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Horst007 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: their mine folded before Flop
Seat 8: mr vuitton (button) showed [Ts Tc] and won (2030) with three of a kind, Tens

PokerStars Game #18693128609: Tournament #95046640, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/07/09 - 10:02:39 (ET)
Table '95046640 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: lemmmon (2180 in chips)
Seat 4: Welpe84 (2920 in chips)
Seat 5: kica85 (2805 in chips)
Seat 7: Marko8686 (1325 in chips)
Seat 8: Never_Race (1215 in chips)
Seat 9: Hannesd83 (3055 in chips)
kica85: posts small blind 50
Marko8686: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Marko8686 [4c Ad]
Never_Race: folds
Hannesd83: folds
lemmmon: folds
Welpe84: folds
kica85: raises 200 to 300
Marko8686: raises 1025 to 1325 and is all-in
kica85: calls 1025
*** FLOP *** [Js As Ks]
*** TURN *** [Js As Ks] [2s]
*** RIVER *** [Js As Ks 2s] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kica85: shows [2h 2d] (three of a kind, Deuces)
Marko8686: shows [4c Ad] (a pair of Aces)
kica85 collected 2650 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2650 | Rake 0
Board [Js As Ks 2s Tc]
Seat 2: lemmmon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Welpe84 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kica85 (small blind) showed [2h 2d] and won (2650) with three of a kind, Deuces
Seat 7: Marko8686 (big blind) showed [4c Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 8: Never_Race folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Hannesd83 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Solo alcuni degli ultimi sit giocati presi a caso...direi che la sfiga ha deciso di farsi sentire (non posto nemmeno le mani perse con AA). A parte questo, la cosa che mi fa più girare le p**** è che ci sono certe chiamate assurde, come quella del tipo con K7o. Ma dico io, come cavolo fai a chiamare un AI con due carte del genere

E meno male che siamo su PS, con sit da 10$.... Se ste chiamate succedessero una volta ogni tanto va beh...ma ultimamente mi capitano sempre più spesso...teoricamente dovrei essere felice, ma in realtà perdo pure e sinceramente non è che sia molto consolatorio sapere che fra 100.000 sit grazie a queste chiamate avrò guadagnato...prima di arrivare a 100.000 sit probabilmente sarà già morto

Va beh scusate lo sfogo.

yellowlegs · 11-07-2008, 09:04 PM

Ciao Marko, hai tutta la mia solidarietà!
Io gioco su Titan, e ai sit da 5$ succedono esattamente le stesse cose.
Personalmente ho smesso di giocare i sit, tanto, anche quando con una chiamata così, il donkey perde, il raddoppio non ti garantisce di entrare I.T.M., visto il rapido aumento dei bui.
Ti consiglio di fare come me: ultimamente sto giocando solo cash (bui 0.10-0.20); più o meno investi gli stessi soldi, ma i bui non aumentano e gli all-inn pre-flop sono estrememente rari.
I donkey sono gli stessi, ma i risultati completamente diversi: in 20 giorni sono passato da 20€ a 150€ sul conto giocatore.

Marko8686 · 12-07-2008, 11:42 AM

Effettivamente dovrei provare a giocare cash, ma ho avuto una brutta esperienza la prima volta che ci ho provato (va beh ero anche completamente inesperto). Ho perso quasi 90$ in mezz'ora (colore al K, contro colore all'A, e colore contro un full). Ok che può essere stato solo un colpo di sfiga, però sono rimasto un po' traumatizzato

Peppe_ADP · 12-07-2008, 12:51 PM

Guarda la cosa importante è giocare sempre in bankroll!! Questa è varianza e se la affronti con la giusta disciplina vedrai che la supererai tranquillamente!! E ricorda sempre: il peggio deve ancora venire!!

Marko8686 · 12-07-2008, 01:18 PM

Già il peggio deve ancora venire...

PokerStars Game #18759444700: Tournament #95400553, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/07/12 - 05:20:59 (ET)
Table '95400553 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: tripleh77 (990 in chips)
Seat 2: fracture2 (1540 in chips)
Seat 3: inexhale (1905 in chips)
Seat 4: Jimmy Button (1900 in chips)
Seat 5: MissSpany (2100 in chips)
Seat 7: scalpa88 (2040 in chips)
Seat 8: neo5678 (2185 in chips)
Seat 9: Marko8686 (840 in chips)
Marko8686: posts small blind 75
tripleh77: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Marko8686 [Td 9s]
fracture2: folds
inexhale: folds
Jimmy Button: folds
MissSpany: folds
scalpa88: folds
neo5678: folds
Marko8686: raises 690 to 840 and is all-in
tripleh77: calls 690
*** FLOP *** [6s Kc Kd]
*** TURN *** [6s Kc Kd] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [6s Kc Kd Th] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Marko8686: shows [Td 9s] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
tripleh77: shows [4h Ks] (three of a kind, Kings)
tripleh77 collected 1680 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1680 | Rake 0
Board [6s Kc Kd Th 5d]
Seat 1: tripleh77 (big blind) showed [4h Ks] and won (1680) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 2: fracture2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: inexhale folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Jimmy Button folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: MissSpany folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: scalpa88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: neo5678 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Marko8686 (small blind) showed [Td 9s] and lost with two pair, Kings and Tens

Complimenti per la chiamata...

E poi

PokerStars Game #18759517584: Tournament #95400678, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/07/12 - 05:28:49 (ET)
Table '95400678 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: NancyMK (2565 in chips)
Seat 5: Tjhoover (3320 in chips)
Seat 6: Ausmat (2405 in chips)
Seat 7: Marko8686 (5210 in chips)
Ausmat: posts small blind 75
Marko8686: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Marko8686 [Kh As]
NancyMK: calls 150
Tjhoover: folds
Ausmat: calls 75
Marko8686: raises 450 to 600
NancyMK: folds
Ausmat: calls 450
*** FLOP *** [2d Jc Kd]
Ausmat: checks
Marko8686: bets 4610 and is all-in
Ausmat: calls 1805 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (2805) returned to Marko8686
*** TURN *** [2d Jc Kd] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [2d Jc Kd Th] [7d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ausmat: shows [Jd Ks] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
Marko8686: shows [Kh As] (a pair of Kings)
Ausmat collected 4960 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4960 | Rake 0
Board [2d Jc Kd Th 7d]
Seat 1: NancyMK folded before Flop
Seat 5: Tjhoover (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Ausmat (small blind) showed [Jd Ks] and won (4960) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 7: Marko8686 (big blind) showed [Kh As] and lost with a pair of Kings

PokerStars Game #18759856787: Tournament #95400678, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2008/07/12 - 06:04:16 (ET)
Table '95400678 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: NancyMK (4405 in chips)
Seat 7: Marko8686 (9095 in chips)
NancyMK: posts the ante 50
Marko8686: posts the ante 50
Marko8686: posts small blind 300
NancyMK: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Marko8686 [Ac 9h]
Marko8686: raises 1200 to 1800
NancyMK: calls 1200
*** FLOP *** [9s 2s 7d]
NancyMK: bets 2555 and is all-in
Marko8686: calls 2555
*** TURN *** [9s 2s 7d] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [9s 2s 7d Ks] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
NancyMK: shows [6s 4h] (a flush, King high)
Marko8686: shows [Ac 9h] (a pair of Nines)
NancyMK collected 8810 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8810 | Rake 0
Board [9s 2s 7d Ks 5s]
Seat 1: NancyMK (big blind) showed [6s 4h] and won (8810) with a flush, King high
Seat 7: Marko8686 (button) (small blind) showed [Ac 9h] and lost with a pair of Nines

PokerStars Game #18759872674: Tournament #95400678, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2008/07/12 - 06:05:52 (ET)
Table '95400678 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: NancyMK (9160 in chips)
Seat 7: Marko8686 (4340 in chips)
NancyMK: posts the ante 50
Marko8686: posts the ante 50
NancyMK: posts small blind 300
Marko8686: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Marko8686 [7c 7h]
NancyMK: raises 600 to 1200
Marko8686: raises 3090 to 4290 and is all-in
NancyMK: calls 3090
*** FLOP *** [Qd Kh 2h]
*** TURN *** [Qd Kh 2h] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [Qd Kh 2h Ad] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Marko8686: shows [7c 7h] (a pair of Sevens)
NancyMK: shows [Ac 5d] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
NancyMK collected 8680 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8680 | Rake 0
Board [Qd Kh 2h Ad 5c]
Seat 1: NancyMK (button) (small blind) showed [Ac 5d] and won (8680) with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 7: Marko8686 (big blind) showed [7c 7h] and lost with a pair of Sevens

Queste ultime 3 tutte nello stesso sit...ok che sono arrivato secondo...ma me ne faccio poco di un secondo posto, nei sit conta soprattutto il primo premio...e se non riesco a vincere neanche quando parto sempre in vantaggio :S Va beh forse è meglio una pausa.

Comunque si cerco di stare in bankroll, anche se non rigoroso come quello teorico. Diciamo che sto affrontanto i sit da 10$ con 600-700 euro di bankroll e finora mi è sempre andata bene.

Peppe_ADP · 12-07-2008, 01:29 PM

Il peggio deve ancora venire era solo una frase ironica per farti capire che c'è anche di peggio!! Io in una sessione cash ho perso 8buyin fullstack. Di questi, 5 li ho persi con KK!!! purtroppo è varianza.... ovviamente anche i tuoi avversari sono retard....

11-07-2008, 12:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
Marko8686 tris Data di registrazione: Feb 2008 Messaggi: 287	E si che su PS un po' di testa dovrebbero averla PokerStars Game #18724688966: Tournament #95215693, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/07/10 - 17:21:11 (ET) Table '95215693 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button Seat 1: boeki3 (1395 in chips) Seat 2: BigChief108 (1300 in chips) Seat 4: AJAX_QQ (3825 in chips) Seat 5: landraas (1065 in chips) Seat 6: stefge (1185 in chips) is sitting out Seat 7: Troll2007 (2570 in chips) Seat 8: GBNate04 (765 in chips) Seat 9: Marko8686 (1395 in chips) AJAX_QQ: posts small blind 15 landraas: posts big blind 30 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to Marko8686 [Kd Kh] stefge: folds Troll2007: folds GBNate04: calls 30 Marko8686: raises 90 to 120 boeki3: calls 120 BigChief108: folds AJAX_QQ: folds landraas: folds GBNate04: calls 90 * FLOP * [3h Qs 4d] GBNate04: checks Marko8686: bets 300 stefge has returned boeki3: raises 420 to 720 GBNate04: folds Marko8686: raises 555 to 1275 and is all-in boeki3: calls 555 and is all-in * TURN * [3h Qs 4d] [5h] * RIVER * [3h Qs 4d 5h] [Ac] * SHOW DOWN * Marko8686: shows [Kd Kh] (a pair of Kings) boeki3: shows [Ad Qd] (two pair, Aces and Queens) AJAX_QQ said, "ouch" boeki3 collected 2955 from pot PokerStars Game #18736345873: Tournament #95277605, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/07/11 - 05:14:59 (ET) Table '95277605 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 2: svana_dk (3280 in chips) Seat 3: biglance007 (1505 in chips) Seat 4: 123rataza (2550 in chips) Seat 6: RiveredRat24 (2840 in chips) Seat 7: CapaCiaan (1150 in chips) Seat 8: Marko8686 (815 in chips) Seat 9: mr vuitton (1360 in chips) Marko8686: posts small blind 50 mr vuitton: posts big blind 100 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to Marko8686 [Ad 9c] svana_dk: folds biglance007: folds 123rataza: folds RiveredRat24: raises 150 to 250 CapaCiaan: folds Marko8686: raises 565 to 815 and is all-in mr vuitton: folds RiveredRat24: calls 565 * FLOP * [7c 5s 4d] * TURN * [7c 5s 4d] [3s] * RIVER * [7c 5s 4d 3s] [Js] * SHOW DOWN * Marko8686: shows [Ad 9c] (high card Ace) RiveredRat24: shows [7d Ks] (a pair of Sevens) RiveredRat24 collected 1730 from pot * SUMMARY * Total pot 1730 \| Rake 0 Board [7c 5s 4d 3s Js] Seat 2: svana_dk folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: biglance007 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: 123rataza folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: RiveredRat24 showed [7d Ks] and won (1730) with a pair of Sevens Seat 7: CapaCiaan (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: Marko8686 (small blind) showed [Ad 9c] and lost with high card Ace Seat 9: mr vuitton (big blind) folded before Flop PokerStars Game #18736423782: Tournament #95277612, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/07/11 - 05:24:16 (ET) Table '95277612 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button Seat 2: Marko8686 (790 in chips) Seat 3: sneaky_rich (3825 in chips) Seat 4: CapaCiaan (1760 in chips) Seat 5: Horst007 (840 in chips) Seat 6: their mine (2880 in chips) Seat 8: mr vuitton (3405 in chips) Marko8686: posts small blind 75 sneaky_rich: posts big blind 150 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to Marko8686 [Kd As] CapaCiaan: folds Horst007: folds their mine: raises 150 to 300 mr vuitton: calls 300 Marko8686: raises 490 to 790 and is all-in sneaky_rich: folds their mine: folds mr vuitton: calls 490 * FLOP * [Ah 2h 8c] * TURN * [Ah 2h 8c] [Td] * RIVER * [Ah 2h 8c Td] [6d] * SHOW DOWN * Marko8686: shows [Kd As] (a pair of Aces) mr vuitton: shows [Ts Tc] (three of a kind, Tens) mr vuitton collected 2030 from pot * SUMMARY * Total pot 2030 \| Rake 0 Board [Ah 2h 8c Td 6d] Seat 2: Marko8686 (small blind) showed [Kd As] and lost with a pair of Aces Seat 3: sneaky_rich (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: CapaCiaan folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Horst007 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: their mine folded before Flop Seat 8: mr vuitton (button) showed [Ts Tc] and won (2030) with three of a kind, Tens PokerStars Game #18693128609: Tournament #95046640, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/07/09 - 10:02:39 (ET) Table '95046640 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button Seat 2: lemmmon (2180 in chips) Seat 4: Welpe84 (2920 in chips) Seat 5: kica85 (2805 in chips) Seat 7: Marko8686 (1325 in chips) Seat 8: Never_Race (1215 in chips) Seat 9: Hannesd83 (3055 in chips) kica85: posts small blind 50 Marko8686: posts big blind 100 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to Marko8686 [4c Ad] Never_Race: folds Hannesd83: folds lemmmon: folds Welpe84: folds kica85: raises 200 to 300 Marko8686: raises 1025 to 1325 and is all-in kica85: calls 1025 * FLOP * [Js As Ks] * TURN * [Js As Ks] [2s] * RIVER * [Js As Ks 2s] [Tc] * SHOW DOWN * kica85: shows [2h 2d] (three of a kind, Deuces) Marko8686: shows [4c Ad] (a pair of Aces) kica85 collected 2650 from pot * SUMMARY * Total pot 2650 \| Rake 0 Board [Js As Ks 2s Tc] Seat 2: lemmmon folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: Welpe84 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: kica85 (small blind) showed [2h 2d] and won (2650) with three of a kind, Deuces Seat 7: Marko8686 (big blind) showed [4c Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces Seat 8: Never_Race folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: Hannesd83 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Solo alcuni degli ultimi sit giocati presi a caso...direi che la sfiga ha deciso di farsi sentire (non posto nemmeno le mani perse con AA). A parte questo, la cosa che mi fa più girare le p**** è che ci sono certe chiamate assurde, come quella del tipo con K7o. Ma dico io, come cavolo fai a chiamare un AI con due carte del genere E meno male che siamo su PS, con sit da 10$.... Se ste chiamate succedessero una volta ogni tanto va beh...ma ultimamente mi capitano sempre più spesso...teoricamente dovrei essere felice, ma in realtà perdo pure e sinceramente non è che sia molto consolatorio sapere che fra 100.000 sit grazie a queste chiamate avrò guadagnato...prima di arrivare a 100.000 sit probabilmente sarà già morto Va beh scusate lo sfogo.

11-07-2008, 09:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
yellowlegs Doppia Coppia Data di registrazione: Oct 2006 Messaggi: 207	Ciao Marko, hai tutta la mia solidarietà! Io gioco su Titan, e ai sit da 5$ succedono esattamente le stesse cose. Personalmente ho smesso di giocare i sit, tanto, anche quando con una chiamata così, il donkey perde, il raddoppio non ti garantisce di entrare I.T.M., visto il rapido aumento dei bui. Ti consiglio di fare come me: ultimamente sto giocando solo cash (bui 0.10-0.20); più o meno investi gli stessi soldi, ma i bui non aumentano e gli all-inn pre-flop sono estrememente rari. I donkey sono gli stessi, ma i risultati completamente diversi: in 20 giorni sono passato da 20€ a 150€ sul conto giocatore. __________________ Se il river non esistesse a quest'ora... saremmo ancora in head's up! Vincitore III° Campionato IPF - Everest Poker

12-07-2008, 12:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
Peppe_ADP Scala Colore Data di registrazione: Nov 2007 Ubicazione: Pescara Messaggi: 2,076	Guarda la cosa importante è giocare sempre in bankroll!! Questa è varianza e se la affronti con la giusta disciplina vedrai che la supererai tranquillamente!! E ricorda sempre: il peggio deve ancora venire!! __________________ aka pappus86 http://www.amicidelpoker.net http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=92493

12-07-2008, 01:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
Peppe_ADP Scala Colore Data di registrazione: Nov 2007 Ubicazione: Pescara Messaggi: 2,076	Il peggio deve ancora venire era solo una frase ironica per farti capire che c'è anche di peggio!! Io in una sessione cash ho perso 8buyin fullstack. Di questi, 5 li ho persi con KK!!! purtroppo è varianza.... ovviamente anche i tuoi avversari sono retard.... __________________ aka pappus86 http://www.amicidelpoker.net http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=92493

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12-07-2008, 11:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
Marko8686 tris Data di registrazione: Feb 2008 Messaggi: 287	Effettivamente dovrei provare a giocare cash, ma ho avuto una brutta esperienza la prima volta che ci ho provato (va beh ero anche completamente inesperto). Ho perso quasi 90$ in mezz'ora (colore al K, contro colore all'A, e colore contro un full). Ok che può essere stato solo un colpo di sfiga, però sono rimasto un po' traumatizzato

12-07-2008, 01:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
Marko8686 tris Data di registrazione: Feb 2008 Messaggi: 287	Già il peggio deve ancora venire... PokerStars Game #18759444700: Tournament #95400553, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/07/12 - 05:20:59 (ET) Table '95400553 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: tripleh77 (990 in chips) Seat 2: fracture2 (1540 in chips) Seat 3: inexhale (1905 in chips) Seat 4: Jimmy Button (1900 in chips) Seat 5: MissSpany (2100 in chips) Seat 7: scalpa88 (2040 in chips) Seat 8: neo5678 (2185 in chips) Seat 9: Marko8686 (840 in chips) Marko8686: posts small blind 75 tripleh77: posts big blind 150 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to Marko8686 [Td 9s] fracture2: folds inexhale: folds Jimmy Button: folds MissSpany: folds scalpa88: folds neo5678: folds Marko8686: raises 690 to 840 and is all-in tripleh77: calls 690 * FLOP * [6s Kc Kd] * TURN * [6s Kc Kd] [Th] * RIVER * [6s Kc Kd Th] [5d] * SHOW DOWN * Marko8686: shows [Td 9s] (two pair, Kings and Tens) tripleh77: shows [4h Ks] (three of a kind, Kings) tripleh77 collected 1680 from pot * SUMMARY * Total pot 1680 \| Rake 0 Board [6s Kc Kd Th 5d] Seat 1: tripleh77 (big blind) showed [4h Ks] and won (1680) with three of a kind, Kings Seat 2: fracture2 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: inexhale folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: Jimmy Button folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: MissSpany folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: scalpa88 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: neo5678 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: Marko8686 (small blind) showed [Td 9s] and lost with two pair, Kings and Tens Complimenti per la chiamata... E poi PokerStars Game #18759517584: Tournament #95400678, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/07/12 - 05:28:49 (ET) Table '95400678 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: NancyMK (2565 in chips) Seat 5: Tjhoover (3320 in chips) Seat 6: Ausmat (2405 in chips) Seat 7: Marko8686 (5210 in chips) Ausmat: posts small blind 75 Marko8686: posts big blind 150 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to Marko8686 [Kh As] NancyMK: calls 150 Tjhoover: folds Ausmat: calls 75 Marko8686: raises 450 to 600 NancyMK: folds Ausmat: calls 450 * FLOP * [2d Jc Kd] Ausmat: checks Marko8686: bets 4610 and is all-in Ausmat: calls 1805 and is all-in Uncalled bet (2805) returned to Marko8686 * TURN * [2d Jc Kd] [Th] * RIVER * [2d Jc Kd Th] [7d] * SHOW DOWN * Ausmat: shows [Jd Ks] (two pair, Kings and Jacks) Marko8686: shows [Kh As] (a pair of Kings) Ausmat collected 4960 from pot * SUMMARY * Total pot 4960 \| Rake 0 Board [2d Jc Kd Th 7d] Seat 1: NancyMK folded before Flop Seat 5: Tjhoover (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: Ausmat (small blind) showed [Jd Ks] and won (4960) with two pair, Kings and Jacks Seat 7: Marko8686 (big blind) showed [Kh As] and lost with a pair of Kings PokerStars Game #18759856787: Tournament #95400678, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2008/07/12 - 06:04:16 (ET) Table '95400678 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: NancyMK (4405 in chips) Seat 7: Marko8686 (9095 in chips) NancyMK: posts the ante 50 Marko8686: posts the ante 50 Marko8686: posts small blind 300 NancyMK: posts big blind 600 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to Marko8686 [Ac 9h] Marko8686: raises 1200 to 1800 NancyMK: calls 1200 * FLOP * [9s 2s 7d] NancyMK: bets 2555 and is all-in Marko8686: calls 2555 * TURN * [9s 2s 7d] [Ks] * RIVER * [9s 2s 7d Ks] [5s] * SHOW DOWN * NancyMK: shows [6s 4h] (a flush, King high) Marko8686: shows [Ac 9h] (a pair of Nines) NancyMK collected 8810 from pot * SUMMARY * Total pot 8810 \| Rake 0 Board [9s 2s 7d Ks 5s] Seat 1: NancyMK (big blind) showed [6s 4h] and won (8810) with a flush, King high Seat 7: Marko8686 (button) (small blind) showed [Ac 9h] and lost with a pair of Nines PokerStars Game #18759872674: Tournament #95400678, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2008/07/12 - 06:05:52 (ET) Table '95400678 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: NancyMK (9160 in chips) Seat 7: Marko8686 (4340 in chips) NancyMK: posts the ante 50 Marko8686: posts the ante 50 NancyMK: posts small blind 300 Marko8686: posts big blind 600 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to Marko8686 [7c 7h] NancyMK: raises 600 to 1200 Marko8686: raises 3090 to 4290 and is all-in NancyMK: calls 3090 * FLOP * [Qd Kh 2h] * TURN * [Qd Kh 2h] [Ad] * RIVER * [Qd Kh 2h Ad] [5c] * SHOW DOWN * Marko8686: shows [7c 7h] (a pair of Sevens) NancyMK: shows [Ac 5d] (two pair, Aces and Fives) NancyMK collected 8680 from pot * SUMMARY * Total pot 8680 \| Rake 0 Board [Qd Kh 2h Ad 5c] Seat 1: NancyMK (button) (small blind) showed [Ac 5d] and won (8680) with two pair, Aces and Fives Seat 7: Marko8686 (big blind) showed [7c 7h] and lost with a pair of Sevens Queste ultime 3 tutte nello stesso sit...ok che sono arrivato secondo...ma me ne faccio poco di un secondo posto, nei sit conta soprattutto il primo premio...e se non riesco a vincere neanche quando parto sempre in vantaggio :S Va beh forse è meglio una pausa. Comunque si cerco di stare in bankroll, anche se non rigoroso come quello teorico. Diciamo che sto affrontanto i sit da 10$ con 600-700 euro di bankroll e finora mi è sempre andata bene.