palla5000

Dopo una decina di giorni che non mi cimentavo ho deciso di farmi una sessione su due tavoli al NL 2-4 su iPoker, circuito che frequento abitualmente, pur con nik diversi. Questa volta ho utilizzato "archymed".

Posto qui TUTTE le mie mani nelle quali ho vinto o perso piu' di 10BB.
La sessione mi ha portato un +550 circa.
Segnalo in rosso le mani che mi sono costate $ e in verde quelle che mi hanno fruttato. Il formato e' quello di PokerTracker. Le mani sono in ordine cronologico, suddivise per tavolo.


Accetto critiche commenti e discussioni. Un paio di cazzatone le ho combinate di certo...
Nel tavolo "lucerne" ho trovato un giocatore (lupodimaresr ) con 95% di Vol. $ put in pot (un autentico maniaco) e 0% di raise preflop. Moltissime scelte le ho fatte in funzione di giocarmi la mano HU con lui, anche con carte non troppo buone.


TAVOLO LUCERNE (+588$ - 63min. - 69 mani)

GAME #811722012: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 08:35:52
Table Lucerne
Seat 1: Laudrup111 ($400.00 in chips) DEALER
Seat 3: archymed ($388.00 in chips)
Seat 5: krogstrup1 ($256.82 in chips)
Seat 6: lupodimaresr ($1,060.94 in chips)
Seat 8: Stonesman ($391.66 in chips)
Seat 10: Bongineer ($400.00 in chips)
archymed: Post SB $2.00
krogstrup1: Post BB $4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to archymed
lupodimaresr: Call $4.00
Stonesman: Raise $16.00
Laudrup111: Fold
archymed: Call $14.00
krogstrup1: Fold
lupodimaresr: Call $12.00
*** FLOP ***
archymed: Check
lupodimaresr: Check
Stonesman: Check
*** TURN ***
archymed: Check
lupodimaresr: Check
Stonesman: Check
*** RIVER ***
archymed: Bet $40.00
lupodimaresr: Raise $236.00
Stonesman: Fold
archymed: Fold
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $325.00 Rake $3.00
lupodimaresr: wins $325.00




GAME #811730320: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 08:43:05
Table Lucerne
Seat 1: Laudrup111 ($400.00 in chips)
Seat 3: archymed ($341.20 in chips) DEALER
Seat 5: krogstrup1 ($201.82 in chips)
Seat 6: lupodimaresr ($1,221.94 in chips)
Seat 8: Stonesman ($487.66 in chips)
Seat 10: Bongineer ($400.00 in chips)
krogstrup1: Post SB $2.00
lupodimaresr: Post BB $4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lupodimaresr
Dealt to archymed
Stonesman: Fold
Bongineer: Raise $14.00
Laudrup111: Fold
archymed: Raise $36.00
krogstrup1: Fold
lupodimaresr: Call $32.00
Bongineer: Call $22.00
*** FLOP ***
lupodimaresr: Check
Bongineer: Check
archymed: Bet $84.00
lupodimaresr: Call $84.00
Bongineer: Fold
*** TURN ***
lupodimaresr: Check
archymed: Bet $221.20
lupodimaresr: Call $221.20
*** RIVER ***
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $717.40 Rake $3.00
archymed: wins $717.40



GAME #811746116: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 08:56:23
Table Lucerne
Seat 1: Laudrup111 ($474.50 in chips)
Seat 3: archymed ($741.70 in chips)
Seat 5: krogstrup1 ($544.56 in chips)
Seat 6: lupodimaresr ($838.36 in chips)
Seat 10: Bongineer ($464.30 in chips) DEALER
Laudrup111: Post SB $2.00
archymed: Post BB $4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to archymed
Dealt to Laudrup111
krogstrup1: Fold
lupodimaresr: Call $4.00
Bongineer: Fold
Laudrup111: Raise $24.00
archymed: Call $22.00
lupodimaresr: Call $22.00
*** FLOP ***
Laudrup111: Check
archymed: Bet $36.00
lupodimaresr: Fold
Laudrup111: Call $36.00
*** TURN ***
Laudrup111: Check
archymed: Check
*** RIVER ***
Laudrup111: Bet $32.00
archymed: Call $32.00
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $211.00 Rake $3.00
archymed: wins $211.00



GAME #811766726: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 09:13:43
Table Lucerne
Seat 1: Laudrup111 ($448.00 in chips)
Seat 3: archymed ($818.90 in chips) DEALER
Seat 6: lupodimaresr ($1,668.72 in chips)
Seat 8: McGoniac ($292.78 in chips)
lupodimaresr: Post SB $2.00
McGoniac: Post BB $4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to archymed
Dealt to lupodimaresr
Laudrup111: Raise $16.00
archymed: Raise $28.00
lupodimaresr: Call $26.00
McGoniac: Fold
Laudrup111: Call $12.00
*** FLOP ***
lupodimaresr: Check
Laudrup111: Check
archymed: Bet $52.00
lupodimaresr: Call $52.00
Laudrup111: Fold
*** TURN ***
lupodimaresr: Check
archymed: Bet $184.00
lupodimaresr: Call $184.00
*** RIVER ***
lupodimaresr: Check
archymed: Check
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $558.00 Rake $2.00
lupodimaresr: wins $558.00




GAME #811775022: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 09:20:40
Table Lucerne
Seat 1: Laudrup111 ($431.70 in chips)
Seat 3: archymed ($634.70 in chips)
Seat 5: NakenChef ($394.00 in chips)
Seat 6: lupodimaresr ($1,914.92 in chips) DEALER
Seat 8: McGoniac ($244.78 in chips)
Seat 10: Bongineer ($442.30 in chips)
McGoniac: Post SB $2.00
Bongineer: Post BB $4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to archymed
Dealt to lupodimaresr
Laudrup111: Fold
archymed: Raise $16.00
NakenChef: Fold
lupodimaresr: Call $16.00
McGoniac: Fold
Bongineer: Fold
*** FLOP ***
archymed: Bet $28.00
lupodimaresr: Call $28.00
*** TURN ***
archymed: Bet $80.00
lupodimaresr: Call $80.00
*** RIVER ***
archymed: Check
lupodimaresr: Check
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $251.00 Rake $3.00
archymed: wins $251.00




GAME #811778467: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 09:23:34
Table Lucerne
Seat 1: Laudrup111 ($425.70 in chips) DEALER
Seat 3: archymed ($745.70 in chips)
Seat 5: NakenChef ($461.00 in chips)
Seat 6: lupodimaresr ($1,754.22 in chips)
Seat 8: McGoniac ($238.78 in chips)
Seat 10: Bongineer ($436.30 in chips)
archymed: Post SB $2.00
NakenChef: Post BB $4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lupodimaresr
Dealt to archymed
lupodimaresr: Call $4.00
McGoniac: Fold
Bongineer: Fold
Laudrup111: Raise $20.00
archymed: Call $18.00
NakenChef: Call $16.00
lupodimaresr: Call $16.00
*** FLOP ***
archymed: Check
NakenChef: Check
lupodimaresr: Check
Laudrup111: Check
*** TURN ***
archymed: Bet $60.00
NakenChef: Fold
lupodimaresr: Call $60.00
Laudrup111: Fold
*** RIVER ***
archymed: Bet $180.00
lupodimaresr: Call $180.00
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $557.00 Rake $3.00
archymed: wins $557.00




GAME #811780031: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 09:24:51
Table Lucerne
Seat 1: Laudrup111 ($405.70 in chips)
Seat 3: archymed ($1,042.70 in chips) DEALER
Seat 5: NakenChef ($441.00 in chips)
Seat 6: lupodimaresr ($1,494.22 in chips)
Seat 8: McGoniac ($238.78 in chips)
Seat 10: Bongineer ($436.30 in chips)
NakenChef: Post SB $2.00
lupodimaresr: Post BB $4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lupodimaresr
Dealt to archymed
Dealt to McGoniac
McGoniac: Raise $8.00
Bongineer: Fold
Laudrup111: Fold
archymed: Raise $20.00
NakenChef: Fold
lupodimaresr: Call $16.00
McGoniac: Call $12.00
*** FLOP ***
lupodimaresr: Check
McGoniac: Check
archymed: Bet $36.00
lupodimaresr: Call $36.00
McGoniac: Call $36.00
*** TURN ***
lupodimaresr: Check
McGoniac: Check
archymed: Check
*** RIVER ***
lupodimaresr: Check
McGoniac: Check
archymed: Check
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $167.00 Rake $3.00
archymed: wins $167.00




GAME #811787243: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 09:30:43
Table Lucerne
Seat 1: Laudrup111 ($400.00 in chips)
Seat 3: archymed ($1,139.70 in chips)
Seat 5: NakenChef ($400.00 in chips) DEALER
Seat 6: lupodimaresr ($1,851.42 in chips)
Seat 8: McGoniac ($160.78 in chips)
Seat 10: Bongineer ($416.30 in chips)
lupodimaresr: Post SB $2.00
McGoniac: Post BB $4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to archymed
Bongineer: Raise $14.00
Laudrup111: Fold
archymed: Raise $32.00
NakenChef: Fold
lupodimaresr: Call $30.00
McGoniac: Fold
Bongineer: Fold
*** FLOP ***
lupodimaresr: Check
archymed: Bet $56.00
lupodimaresr: Fold
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $135.00 Rake $3.00
archymed: wins $135.00





GAME #811790449: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 09:33:16
Table Lucerne
Seat 1: Laudrup111 ($438.00 in chips)
Seat 3: archymed ($1,182.70 in chips)
Seat 5: NakenChef ($400.00 in chips)
Seat 6: lupodimaresr ($1,793.62 in chips)
Seat 8: McGoniac ($152.78 in chips)
Seat 10: Bongineer ($394.30 in chips) DEALER
Laudrup111: Post SB $2.00
archymed: Post BB $4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lupodimaresr
Dealt to archymed
NakenChef: Fold
lupodimaresr: Call $4.00
McGoniac: Call $4.00
Bongineer: Fold
Laudrup111: Fold
archymed: Raise $16.00
lupodimaresr: Call $16.00
McGoniac: Fold
*** FLOP ***
archymed: Bet $36.00
lupodimaresr: Call $36.00
*** TURN ***
archymed: Bet $52.00
lupodimaresr: Call $52.00
*** RIVER ***
archymed: Check
lupodimaresr: Check
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $219.00 Rake $3.00
lupodimaresr: wins $219.00





GAME #811792668: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 09:35:01
Table Lucerne
Seat 1: Laudrup111 ($436.00 in chips)
Seat 3: archymed ($1,072.70 in chips) DEALER
Seat 5: NakenChef ($396.00 in chips)
Seat 6: lupodimaresr ($1,842.62 in chips)
Seat 8: McGoniac ($148.78 in chips)
Seat 10: Bongineer ($459.30 in chips)
NakenChef: Post SB $2.00
lupodimaresr: Post BB $4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lupodimaresr
Dealt to archymed
McGoniac: Fold
Bongineer: Fold
Laudrup111: Raise $16.00
archymed: Call $16.00
NakenChef: Fold
lupodimaresr: Call $12.00
*** FLOP ***
lupodimaresr: Check
Laudrup111: Check
archymed: Check
*** TURN ***
lupodimaresr: Check
Laudrup111: Check
archymed: Bet $32.00
lupodimaresr: Call $32.00
Laudrup111: Fold
*** RIVER ***
lupodimaresr: Check
archymed: Bet $36.00
lupodimaresr: Call $36.00
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $183.00 Rake $3.00
lupodimaresr: wins $183.00





TAVOLO TURBO CERDIDO(-46$ - 63min. - 93 mani)
un tavolo pittosto chiuso con 26% di giocatori al flop e 20% di rilanci preflop

GAME #811724457: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 08:38:00
Table "TURBO" Cerdido
Seat 1: AlexeiK ($400.00 in chips)
Seat 5: owls0 ($415.60 in chips)
Seat 6: Evylon ($388.00 in chips) DEALER
Seat 8: SekreterarN ($1,193.06 in chips)
Seat 10: archymed ($412.70 in chips)
SekreterarN: Post SB $2.00
archymed: Post BB $4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SekreterarN
Dealt to archymed
AlexeiK: Fold
owls0: Fold
Evylon: Fold
SekreterarN: Raise $10.00
archymed: Call $8.00
*** FLOP ***
SekreterarN: Bet $21.00
archymed: Call $21.00
*** TURN ***
SekreterarN: Check
archymed: Bet $36.00
SekreterarN: Call $36.00
*** RIVER ***
SekreterarN: Check
archymed: Check
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $135.00 Rake $3.00
SekreterarN: wins $135.00





GAME #811733484: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 08:45:46
Table "TURBO" Cerdido
Seat 3: Bongineer ($390.00 in chips)
Seat 5: owls0 ($443.80 in chips)
Seat 6: Evylon ($376.10 in chips)
Seat 8: SekreterarN ($1,279.06 in chips)
Seat 10: archymed ($343.80 in chips) DEALER
Bongineer: Post SB $2.00
owls0: Post BB $4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to archymed
Dealt to owls0
Evylon: Fold
SekreterarN: Fold
archymed: Raise $16.00
Bongineer: Fold
owls0: Call $12.00
*** FLOP ***
owls0: Check
archymed: Bet $28.00
owls0: Call $28.00
*** TURN ***
owls0: Check
archymed: Check
*** RIVER ***
owls0: Check
archymed: Check
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $87.00 Rake $3.00
owls0: wins $87.00





GAME #811743625: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 08:54:17
Table "TURBO" Cerdido
Seat 1: AlexeiK ($404.00 in chips)
Seat 3: Bongineer ($421.00 in chips) DEALER
Seat 5: owls0 ($428.30 in chips)
Seat 6: Evylon ($279.10 in chips)
Seat 8: SekreterarN ($1,408.06 in chips)
Seat 10: archymed ($287.80 in chips)
owls0: Post SB $2.00
Evylon: Post BB $4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to archymed
SekreterarN: Fold
archymed: Raise $16.00
AlexeiK: Fold
Bongineer: Fold
owls0: Raise $40.00
Evylon: Fold
archymed: Call $26.00
*** FLOP ***
owls0: Bet $71.00
archymed: Fold
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $156.00 Rake $3.00
owls0: wins $156.00





GAME #811763256: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 09:10:49
Table "TURBO" Cerdido
Seat 1: AlexeiK ($425.00 in chips)
Seat 3: Bongineer ($400.00 in chips)
Seat 5: owls0 ($457.30 in chips)
Seat 6: Evylon ($265.70 in chips)
Seat 8: SekreterarN ($1,413.16 in chips) DEALER
Seat 10: archymed ($250.80 in chips)
archymed: Post SB $2.00
AlexeiK: Post BB $4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to archymed
Bongineer: Fold
owls0: Fold
Evylon: Call $4.00
SekreterarN: Fold
archymed: Raise $16.00
AlexeiK: Call $14.00
Evylon: Call $14.00
*** FLOP ***
archymed: Check
AlexeiK: Check
Evylon: Bet $20.00
archymed: Raise $40.00
AlexeiK: Fold
Evylon: Call $20.00
*** TURN ***
archymed: Bet $76.00
Evylon: Fold
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $207.00 Rake $3.00
archymed: wins $207.00




GAME #811795130: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 09:36:56
Table "TURBO" Cerdido
Seat 1: skeeper ($106.72 in chips)
Seat 3: Felicia19 ($427.80 in chips)
Seat 5: yumna ($119.29 in chips)
Seat 6: Evylon ($196.70 in chips)
Seat 8: SekreterarN ($1,285.96 in chips)
Seat 10: archymed ($415.30 in chips) DEALER
skeeper: Post SB $2.00
Felicia19: Post BB $4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to archymed
yumna: Fold
Evylon: Raise $16.00
SekreterarN: Fold
archymed: Raise $48.00
skeeper: Fold
Felicia19: Fold
Evylon: Call $32.00
*** FLOP ***
Evylon: Bet $32.00
archymed: Fold
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $131.00 Rake $3.00
Evylon: wins $131.00

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metmet

scusa una domanda ma le altre mani ai tavoli non le hai giocate o non erano "rilevanti" e non le hai postate ?
Ma da oggi lupodimaresr lo cerchi ai tavoli vero LOL

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palla5000

Come ho scritto...

Posto qui TUTTE le mie mani nelle quali ho vinto o perso piu' di 10BB.


Mi sembrava "pesante" postare piu' di 100 mani compresi i fold preflop.

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metmet

sorry scusa mi era scappata la precisazione dei 10BB,
GAME #811790449: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 09:33:16
Non capisco come è stat giocata questa mano ok quanto premetti sul tipo di giocatore ,
ma non capisco entrambi,
prima tu punti con 2 "5" a tavola ,ok ci puo' stare magari volevi vedere dove stavi nella mano e lui ti chiama ( gia' qui' non l'ho capito ),
secondo esce un Q e punti 52 euro e lui ti chiama semplicemente
allora prima NON ti fa' un 5 in mano e poi setta la top pair e non rilancia?
Una domanda al river cosa gli facevi ?? Sapevi di partire sotto o ...?
Io credo che a quel punto un buon rilancio avrebbe portato a casa il piatto MA I TUOI limiti sono molto forse troppo diversi dai miei per capire lo stile di gioco ;-) pero' mi sarebbe utile capire.

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Chi semina raccoglie... Chi raccoglie si china... e a quel punto è un attimo !

palla5000

La giocata che ho fatto deve leggersi ESCLUSIVAMENTE come fatta contro quel tipo di avversario.
Come detto si trattava di un maniaco loose passive. Chimava il 92% delle mani e non rilanciava mai!

Altre due mani precedenti dovrebbero averti spiegato il personaggio:
GAME #811775022: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 09:20:40
GAME #811778467: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-01-23 09:23:34

Io pensavo di essere buono al flop. Al turn idem e so che un maniaco simile mi avrebbe chiamato anche con A high. certo che con una Q non sono certamente in una bella situazione. Ho confidato che al river (dove non posso rischiare ulteriormente) avrebbe tenuto il check. Il problema di questi giocatori passivi (se di problema si puo' parlare ) e' che, non rilanciando mai, non si riesce a ottenere informazioni. E' la classica mano in cui poteva avere A high cosi' come poker di 5. In quelle circostanze occorre giocare in modo da massimizzare il profitto (vedi mani precedenti in cui chiama puntata cospicue con mani assurde) anche se cio' equivale a esporsi a un rischio maggiore (vedi la mia puntata al turn con una mano sicuramente mediocre). Al turn ero sotto. Aveva la donna. Amen, ma avrebbe tranquillamente chiamato con qualsiasi underpair, progetto di colore o anche con A high.
Contro un loose aggressive non avrei mai giocato cosi...

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metmet

mmm ok tnk per la delucidazione, il mio prob. è che vedo prendere le info come buone, perchè ai miei livelli solitamente queste puntate sono poco usuali , come si dice ogni livello porta un dif. modalita' di giocare altrimenti non sarebbe cosi' dif salire

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palla5000

Capisco ma non credere ci sia molta differenza. Anche a questi livelli i tizi che hanno 93% di flop visti sono "poco usuali".

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